SNAPPLE LEAVES A COMMENT
This is a comment SNAPPLE just left on my blog for those of you who would like to hear from an FBI supporter’s take on the whole Anna Mae Aquash story. My response is below his.
On August 12, 2009 at 5:24 am Snapple Said:
Elizabeth,
Richard Two Elk has made a video that describes some things that happened when the AIM attacked the people at Wounded Knee.
I think you should hear his side instead of just listening to a woman who may be closely associated with the people who conspired in some crimes.
I have a number of posts about Two Elk, but you might want to see his new video.
The introduction of the Trimbach’s book is written by Mr. Two Elk. He writes about child abuse and alcoholism in the introduction. This book is based on Indian sources because it is Indians who witnessed the crimes or who were the victims.
I linked it on this post.
http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com/2009/08/richard-two-elk-stolen-legacy-of.html
I think you are believing the lies that the criminals who killed Indians, FBI agents, and some young women and men at Wounded Knee told.
You write about abuse of women and children, but young women and girls were sexually assaulted and murdered during the take-over.
The lawyer for the AIM, Mark Lane, got money from the KGB. He was also the lawyer for the 900 people at Jonestown who were murdered. Mark Lane says he managed to escape that day. Only a few people weren’t poisoned or shot. Then Mark Lane–the AIMster lawyer who got money from the KGB–wrote a book that claimed the CIA killed those people.
Mark Lane got money from the Soviet KGB to make trouble and to discredit American security agencies like the FBI and CIA. We know this because a KGB archivist defected to the British with many years of notes he took on the documents in the KGB foreign intelligence archives.
Snapple,
You must not have read my posts or comments to James Simon very well. I do not just listen to Monica Charles…she merely suggested a book to read….I have been reading THE UNQUIET GRAVE by Steve Hendricks. I got hung up on the Jancita Eagle Deer story and wrote several posts about her. What do you think about Jancita Eagle Deer? Do you see her as just another lying drunk Indian woman who “got” what she asked for?
I in no way, shape or form support ANYONE who has raped or abused women or children…David Seals has spoken out against AIM leaders who treated women poorly…as has Monica Charles. (look up my posts on Bernard Red Cherries. I have a victims statement from his step daughter on my blog. A fellow blogger was threatened by Autonomous AIM Where is the FBI??) The point is Snapple, you and James Simon unconditionaly support those who who have either ignored or partaken in the abuse of women. As Monica Charles once wrote I see the law enforcement as public servants sworn to uphold the laws of the United States(she just plain mistrusts them). The FBI should have been protecting the rights of Native Americans and not just those of the colonizers.
I am not mired in opinion of one side over the other. I do not blindly support the AIM or the FBI. The only people I blindly support are the victims…and not the ones crying over the loss of their material possesions at Wounded KneeII
My sympathies and prayers go to the children like MaryAnn Little Bear and Jancita Eagle Deer…and the countless others who did not seem to warrant the FBI’s attention in the terms of a thorough investigation. That bothers me more than the Anna Mae Aquash murder…Anna Mae Aquash was a woman who made it to adulthood and made her decision to be involved in activities that may or may not get her killed…she felt that what she was doing was right and good. I do not agree with nor do I condemn her actions…She was caught up in something that became beyond her control. However I do not hold AIM to higher standards than I hold the FBI.The only law enforcement agent that looks to be a hero in all of this is U.S.Marshal Colburn…he’s good looking too!
My concept of my history has been pulled out from under me with this Indian stuff…totally blows me away at 43? My attitudes toward law enforcement and the government has changed considerably not because they made mistakes or did stupid things or even because they plotted to exterminate Indians but because they continue to support the wrong minded thinking in 2009. 2009 ! ! ! (kind of like the racism we are seeing with the election of Obama) They refuse to recognize, take responsibility and hold accountable those who did not enforce the laws that they were sworn to uphold. AIM was a group of protestors that got out of hand…the FBI is a government agency who only investigated crimes on Pine Ridge and other reservations when it suited their racist, paranoid beliefs.
As for Richard ‘Two Elks….have you ever read alt.native??? This is what the FBI supports??? Seriously???? All any jury would have to read is a copy of him making fun of a woman who was sexually abused by her father that pretty much negates what he claims to be consern and support for Native women. I own a copy of AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA and I will get around to reading it. But being endorsed by Richard Two Elks and Bill Janklow….you guys are starting off on the wrong foot with me.
I am trying to finish THE UNQUIET GRAVE and it is difficult…they are in Oregon traveling with dynamite….It’s hard to read but this is not something that I can even discuss with you because you are 100 percent in support of genocide. I can’t even get James Simon to acknowledge that the government was stearilizing Indian women in the sixties. His avoidance of the topic makes me believe that he thinks that these were the right actions…that Indian women are less than human. What about you SNAPPLE….do you unconditionally support all actions by the United States???
A few more things why do you hide behind the name SNAPPLE?
Why are the FBI supporters so concerned about Monica Charles sex life? That really bothers me..why is that thrown around? Do you hold women to differnet standards? Is there any proof of her having sex with Dennis Banks? She says she didn’t….and if she did why bring it up like she is a whore? How many women or men have you been with??? Why aren’t the sex lives of the FBI agents under attack or investigated or commented about?
Get that video of Richard Two Elks on youtube and I will put it on my blog and make it a whole post!
Oh and I haven’t heard of any young women being murdered at Wounded Knee….but with all I have been stuffing in my head…did I gloss over it?
I look forward to hearing your response.
SIMON STRIKES AGAIN
This is what is wrong with America….here is Mr. Simon’s comment on my AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA post.
Janklow went to jail for his crimes. The AIM leaders, however, have evaded justice in the premeditated murder of Anna Mae Aquash, and possibly several others. Thank you for proving our point that ignorance abounds when discussing the AIM legacy.
Are you freaking out of your mind??? He served a mere 100 days in a county facility! Premeditated murder? The trial has not even started yet…and from what I understand it was little more than a kangaroo court. Why has it taken 30 years? Once again why do you already pronounce John Graham and Richard Marshall guilty?
There’s a kid in a YCF that is serving five years and has to be moved to OSP for a few of those years when he turns 18 ….not to mention the restitution he has to work and pay off when he gets out. He doesn’t get to go out and perform “community service” or what ever nonsense Bill Jankow was allowed to do.
You sent me a link about the “real” victims of Wounded Knee….yeah I’m sure it is bad….what have YOU and the FBI agents that were there done for those families….60 families over 30 something years…they should all be taken care of by now. Seriously tell me all about how you have helped them…You would be in held in much greater esteem. What did Bill Jankow do for those families when he was governor? Are the proceeds of AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA going to help those families? Did the Governor at the time declare Wounded Knee a disaster and plea for Federal dollars to help the families rebuild.
What about those rape charges you seem to have no problem proclaiming John Graham guilty before trial….more double standards??? Is it o.k. in your mind that the son of a bitch never went to trial. Does it not make you sick to your stomach at the thought of that happening to one of your young female relatives?
The people you admire astound me… Bill Janklow is no G.Gordon Liddy. Liddy had to serve about 4 years for for burglary and wiretapping but he served 4 years and has no regrets he admits everything he did..believes in everything he did. I don’t have to agree with him but you gotta have respect for a guy who doesn’t whine and takes responsibility for his actions.
You and people of your ilk are what make this country less than honorable…One can be proud of their country and ashamed of their government.
The difference between you and I is that I see AIM for what it is the good the bad and the ugly. I do not admire the men in AIM who committed crimes against women, violence against other humans…. I do admire the intention before it went awry.
I also see the FBI for what it is the good the bad the ugly the oppressor. I do not admire as you do corrupt law enforcement. I despise them a thousand times more than the worst of AIM. What you purport is that the FBI is above the law- you are wrong. They should be held to the highest of standards as should our politicians, and military.
I cannot spend anymore time on you…. it is like having a conversation with one of those dolls that repeats prerecorded sayings when you pull on its string..not an original thought between the ears.
(Try watching some of those COINTELPRO videos I have on the side you just might learn something)
ANNA MAE AQUASH 7
Excerpts are in italics and from THE UNQUIET GRAVE by Steve Hendricks..
James Simon I was disappointed to see that you had no comments…I hope you answer this question as I have been reading THE NFIC NARRATIVE OF ANNIE MAE AQUASH & LEONARD PELTIER. Is this the time line that you find most accurate? If so I have a lot of question…I have only read the first three intstallments but already there seems to be as you would say a lot of window dressing…I was expecting a more professional timeline there seems to be a lot of heresay…is that going to be allowed in the trial?? I also found it quite interesting that they advertise that even Steve Hendricks validated one of thier findings….so Steve Hendricks apparently is a reputable source when convenient! That was too damn funny!
From what I understand there are several theories about all of this and I doubt that I will even form an opinion of who is guilty until I have heard all of the testimony. And even then??? I don’t know…. It’s a shame that it cannot be solved by DNA..
The opinion I have formed so far is that there was either incredible incompetency in the FBI or a cover up. There seems to be a lot of lying. Lying is a symptom. But of what???
On to Anna Mae…
…agents in Rapid City cabled Washington that there was “no indication of fowl (sic)play.”…the same cable assigned the case the title “Possible Manslaughter”.
The agents did not change the title of the case after Dr.Brown’s autopsy and still more incredibly after Aquash’s burial.
…agents did not know about Brown’s exposure finding until eight days later.
The four agents who went to the autopsy were so uninterested in its outcome that neither then nor over the next week did they bother to ask what Jane Doe had died of. Only after the FBI learned that the dead and buried woman was Aquash did they ask what Dr.Brown had found.
Agent Wood swore to all of this before the judge who ordered Aquash exhumed.
…an FBI cable released under the Freedom of Information Act(where is that?) says otherwise….
…the FBI knew of Brown’s exposure at some unidentified point…before they learned her identity.
Wood……swore in court that Brown told him in their chat that during his autopsy he had seen “an obvious injury…a small contusion on the head.” Brown…said exactly the opposite in his autopsy report and on every other occasion that he was asked about the autopsy.
February 25 (newspapers) had quoted FBI agents saying there was no hint of foul play,
…March 4 quoted Wood saying there had been a big hint of foul play.
….a few weeks later, the FBI reversed course again-dropping Wood’s claim of the obvious injury and resurrecting the original claim of no hint of violence.
To be continued with Finger Prints….
ANNA MAE 6 OR BACK AT THE RANCH
Excerpts are from THE UNQUIET GRAVE by Stephen Hendricks
For your amusement. ..here are the comments on part Anna Mae 5 from alt.native.
I made a PUBLIC APOLOGY TO JAMES SIMON this morning and he in return apologized to me.
Here is his response,
Apology accepted. Hope you similarly forgive for calling your ignorance nearly intolerable. I mean, really, admitting that “So far I have not gotten to any AIM issues just FBI agents who keep changing stories!” is a little bit like Wall Street brokers who buy on a hot stock tip, sell it to the masses, and decide to do the research later. “AIM issues?” YGBSM! News flash: The two books which apparently color your judgment, Unquiet Grave and Loudhawk,(LT If you had gotten to me first and I was posting about AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA you would think I was well researched! What part of I will get to it do you not understand??) are absolutely ripped to shreds in American Indian Mafia. And rightly so, to the great applause of nearly every Indian I know. You’ve got a long way to go, baby, so please post(LT Once again why do my posts bother you so much?) when you have something more sensible to contribute than Monica’s distortions. As my mother used to say, if your smarts are up for debate, better to keep your mouth shut than to remove all doubt. My Indian friend would add that fronting for shameless aiders and abettors like Hendricks and Stern is highly offensive to Indian Country!(LT Is that your way of calling me a sock puppet too?)
And here is mine:
Apology accepted.
My smarts are not up for debate..unlike you I admit to knowing nothing and I believe on several occasions I have publicly stated that. I would like people to do their own research…
Once again why do you hold the FBI to such a lower standard than you do AIM…if the story AIM told kept changing you would be all over it! Seriously I want to know is it selective judgments? reading…ideology?? People whose stories change generally get slaughtered in a court of law.
As for Monica’s distortions you are being general, need to be more specific and probably take that up with her.
You see when I e-mail Monica a question she answers me….you look like you are avoiding me. Monica has often responded to my queries when I have a different take on something with ” Maybe you are right”…or “I could be wrong”… She has her opinions and does not resent me challenging her in a respectful sane manner.
btw what does YGBSM mean?
For some reason when I posted the apology someone at alt.native took this statement,
My apologies to James Simon for suggesting that he should change his name to “Simple”. I want to make a bunch of excuses but I really can’t!!! I don’t want to end up like the FBI or those “rebuilding” alt.native.
and interpreted it as me accusing them of being FBI agents WHAT THE FUCK??? I am talking about people who succumb to bad behavior (which we all do) then make up excuses to justify their bad behavior and Then use the justification as an excuse to justify that they were right so they don’t have to apologize. The two examples were in regard to the FBI that cannot admit that they are wrong when it comes to the Anna Mae autopsy (what have I been writing about???) and the people claiming to be “rebuilding” alt.native because Monica Charles calls people names, and then calling people names themselves. I am not even talking about people who commit to rebuilding alt.native and DO NOT call people names!
Damn rabies epidemic I tell you!
James Simon or Snapple what about the UNQUIET GRAVE is wrong so far? If you really care about my learning curve respond to the post of the day.
Now to Annie Mae’s story..
Zigrossi said only one FBI agent (…Donald Dealing) and gone to Roger Amiotte’s ranch….
Amiotte’s remembered Price and Wood by name.
A BIA officer also remembered Price-yet the officer’s boss, BIA police chief Ken Sayers, tried to claim the officer was not there. Sayers said only three BIA policemen went to the scene, but witnesses counted as many as six, including Sayers, who in turn denied he had been at Amiotte’s.
Price when questiond by WCLDOC’s Ken Tilson says he wasn’t working that day and that he “doesn’t remember” if he was there.
Months later…
Zigrossi said that while only Agent Dealing had gone to Amiotte’s ranch on assignment, others might have gone “out of curiosity.”
To go Amiotte’s “out of curiosity” meant making a three-hour round -trip from either the town of Pine Ridge or Rapid City, where the agents were stationed.
Because of the lack of interest in Indian corpses, reporters thought it was odd for even one agent, let alone four, to go to Amiotte’s.
Zigrossi dismissed such talk as nonsense. He said that after two of his men were killed on the reservation in a shootout the year before, he dispatched agents to every unattended death to see if there might be a tie between the new corpse and the agent’s killers.
This was news to reporters.
To be continued tomorrow with CONFUSING SECTION ON THE FBI REPORTS!!!
I am also going to try to speed this up because I am only on page 12!!!
PUBLIC APOLOGY TO JAMES SIMON/ SNAPPLE/ AND THANKS FOR ALL OF MY READERS/
I made a comment the other day to my brother about having a lot of animosity towards men lately…he said he noticed and that I had been particularly hard on James Simon. I came to this conclusion on my own my brother would never bring it up on his own he is afraid of me…very afraid! (joke)
My apologies to James Simon for suggesting that he should change his name to “Simple”. I want to make a bunch of excuses but I really can’t!!! I don’t want to end up like the FBI or those “rebuilding” alt.native.
As for Snapple I swear I saw matching profiles somewhere on a Denver newspaper comment section … but I will take you at your word….GREAT NOW THERE ARE TWO OF YOU!!!
Actually I like that you are here representing the other EXCEPT THAT I NOTICE YOU HAVE NO COMMENTS ON THE BEHAVIOR OF THE FBI THAT I HAVE BEEN POSTING….
Who are you the FBI press corp or FBI groupies….I used to live in Virginia I know all about law enforcement groupies! Why are you so dedicated to the Anna Mae Aquash trial….INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!!!!
Your refusal to answer questions makes me suspicious of your motives and will soon get you ignored. You know one of my favorite quotes ever was from LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE…
GOD HATES A COWARD Why are you so afraid to deal with the bigger questions? I can assure you a closer examination of the government will make America stronger not weaker as you must imagine….Kind of like seeing a shrink about your childhood…
THANK YOU READERS!!! There was quite a spike in traffic overnight which is unusual and for a Monday no less. It wasn’t because I wrote a new Anna Mae post….I had to work on one of my real jobs and finished very late! Although the Anna Mae posts get a considerable amount of traffic my posts on poetry and writings continue to rise. It is amazing how people keep discovering old posts. And some of the weird searches…Pictures of grandmother and grandfather fucking??? WTF??
There will be a new Anna Mae post tonight!
Thank you again!!!
lizzy
PENDLETON WHISKY….IT’S WHATS FOR BREAKFAST
BEST DAMN WHISKY
No, I’m not working today. In addition I have coffee eggs and potatoes! It’s a great day!
Johnny Cash on the stereo…
I dedicate this to Anna Mae Aquash.
Be you James Simon…AIM….FBI…anyone involved in her murder….
But getting back to the BEST DAMN WHISKY!
PENDLETON WHISKY is imported and bottled by Hood River Distillers (I would put a link there but it goes to a page where you have to swear you are over 21…).
PENDELTON WHISKY is made in association with the PENDLETON ROUND-UP in PENDELTON, Oregon.
The city of PENDELTON is also home of the PENDELTON WOOLEN MILLS (I must say the website is a fucking disappointment looks like a J.C.Penny or Sears catalog!)
Thank God for DREW’S BOOTS in Klamath Falls they have a website that looks like it wasn’t made by a bunch of manicured New Yorkers!
When my sister last visited me in Oregon she bought a bunch of stuff at Drew’s we (her son Frankie and I) practically had to lasso and hog-tie her to get her out of there!!!
THE CONTINUING SAGA OF ANNA MAE AQUASH AND JAMES SIMON
I have been avoiding the whole Anna Mae Aquash saga because it is outright confusing for those of us who are unfamiliar with it.(Or can’t seem to remember what they read 10 years ago.) I have been avoiding this because every time I look my head spins as everyone has a different opinion and a different idea of who dunit.
If I were sitting on the jury I would have to tell the judge that I do have prejudice against the FBI when it concerns minorities. However I could over come those prejudices if I saw facts or evidence quite easily…after all I over came 30 years of anti-Native American brainwashing.
Men like James Simon do not believe in America or only do so in the way a young child waving a flag does. Happy warm feelings at the parade see the colors of the flag rippling in the wind…A very narrow view America and what makes it such a great country and such a bad country.
James Simon does not believe in America as a whole. His line of thinking is why in the year 2009 we have such deep racial and economic divides. He thinks that the laws of this nation are only to protect the privileged few .He does not believe in the FBI. He certainly does not believe in them enough to take a closer look……What James Simon believes in is AIM. He holds AIM to such high standards and scrutiny that they supersede the FBI and Congress and probably the Supreme Court and the President himself. That is true demigodery (that is a new word…I just invented it.).In my opinion the FBI and the United States Government has proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted to uphold the laws that they put forth when it comes to Native Americans. AIM is an organization that was started as a result of 200 years of systematic oppression by the United States.
I am the opposite I grew up believeing that America is THE best place in the world and I still hold that opinion. I hold the FBI and the United States Government to the highest of standards and when they fail to live up to those standards it makes me very unhappy!
When it comes to America James Simon is the type of person whose teenager gets caught shoplifting and he says to security How dare you accuse MY child. Because he does not care….about America.
But lets get to the Anna Mae Aquash case which I know very little of. I am currently reading THE UNQUIET GRAVE by Steve Hendricks. Italics will be exact quotes from the book excluding my typing errors!
CHAPTER 1
FBI’s version:
On February 24th 1976 (and they still trying this case) a rancher near the Badlands came across a body found, curled on it’s left side.
Roger Amiotte the rancher did not approach the body. He went back to his house, and called the Bureau of Indian Affairs police in Kyle.. The police had an officer at his place in twenty minutes. The officer was followed by deputy sheriffs from Kadoka…then by two BIA investigators and a special agent of the Federal Bureau of investigations from the town of Pine Ridge…
A search of the crime scene showed no sign of the crime: no violence to the body, no bullett casings or gunpowder, no scuff marks in the scrub, nothing so much as a footprint. A few tufts of dark hair clung to the face of the blond embankment, suggesting the unfortunate had fallen over it.
Jane Doe was driven to the Indian Health service hospital in Pine Ridge…The pathologist judged her an Indian of twenty to twenty-five years, five feet two inches, 110 pounds, and light complexion, though dehydration and exposure had darkened her. She had borne a child or children and had surrendered a gallbladder to a surgeon and, nearer to death, had had sexual intercourse of a voluntary nature. She had died, the pathologist eventually said-…of frostbite and had lain in the elements for seven to ten days. Her decay was so severe that her fingerprints could not be taken at the hospital, so the FBI asked that her hands be chopped off and forwarded to its laboratory in Washington.
…the authorities on Pine Ridge tried to identify the woman…Her decomposition worsening, she was moved to a mortuary, but the body proved too far gone to preserve. On March2, 1976…Jane Doe was given a Catholic service and a pauper’s burial in an unmarked grave by order of the BIA police.
The next afternoon, the FBI Identification Division in Washington called the FBI field office in Rapid Cioty, which over saw operations on Pine Ridge. Washington told Rapid City…..the Identification Division had matched (the hands) to Anna Mae Aquash, a federal fugitive and luminary in the American Indian Movement.
It took two days to find her family in Canada.
That was the FBI’s story….TO BE CONTINUED
JAMES “SNAPPLE” SIMON
I try to be respectful of people who comment on my blog. But I simply cannot walk away from James “Snapple” Simon. (I think he should change it to James “Simple”Simon). I really did not think that he would have the nerve to comment again because of my last comment.
This is the comment he left on my FOR JAMES SIMON POST
You bring up a lot of generalizations that really don’t get us anywhere, you know, the old “they all do it so I’m absolved of needing to educate myself any further” or else presenting a laundry list of personal expectations that cannot possibly be met, e.g., “until every CEO…” which again excuses a knowledge deficit. Well, in the event you are as open-minded as you say you are, you will have to spend more than a penny. Start by visiting (for free) the Trimbach’s web site, americanindianmafia.com. There you will find a video that tends to render your description of the Aquash murder investigation as more than suspect. If you only knew how federal investigators have agonized over this case for years, while the perpetrators have been able to convince people like you to suspect just about anyone but the aiders and abettors in this premeditated murder of an innocent woman (John Trudell comes to mind.) The fact is many people in AIM were co-conspirators in Anna Mae’s murder at precisely the same time federal agents were trying apprehend these people. I can assure you, for instance, that Anna Mae’s daughters (whom you must admit know more about this case than you do) would describe your arguments as specious and irrelevant. I’d really like to know what your source is for the claim, “The FBI used tactics that would ensure paranoia and division among AIM leaders.” This tells me you have succumbed to AIM propaganda and the same old historical equivocations that enabled the old guard leadership to fool so many, beginning with Robert Redford, Peter Matthiessen, and many well-intentioned people who really don’t know what they’re talking about. I agree with you, it is an uphill battle, but one worth fighting in the interest of truth and justice. I have yet to meet one person who has read Trimbach’s book and has not come away with the honest conclusion that there was much more to the story than they ever knew. In other words, they acknowledge that people who impose criteria as a prerequisite to considering other points of view, the evidence, etc., represent the same type of lock-step thinking they claim to abhor. I certainly hope you weren’t born last Thursday but I suppose I am just as skeptical of your willingness to consider what others have to say as you seem to be of law enforcement. If you want to have an honest debate, let’s get rid of the window dressing and stick to the facts. What say you?
This was my polite response
O.K. HALF OF THE CEO’S!
Mr.Simon you are avoiding the “generalizations”. If you think that the “generalizations” do not matter you are mistaken. Unfortunately that is the natural repercussion when those who have sworn to uphold the laws of the United States are the very people who desecrate them. Do you also overlook the “generalizations” of terrorist regimes? The United States Government simply cannot commit atrocities and pretend that they never happened. If you honestly believe that the FBI has only had the welfare of the Indian Nation in its best interest we simply cannot have this conversation. If you do not know the difference between right and wrong this conversation will be useless.
YOU are skeptical of ME??? Mr.Simon I suggest that you read my blog posts about Anna Mae thoroughly. While I have given my opinion on my mistrust of the FBI. I have never voiced an opinion that members of AIM had nothing to do with it. I have posted opposing videos on the subject AND a link so people could read what Denise Pictou-Maloney thought of her mother’s death. The United States operates on the assumption that all men are innocent until proven guilty….YOU seem to be the one who has already made up their mind! Do NOT project how YOUR mind thinks on ME. If that is how you operate I suggest you go post on Google alt.native! Debate? If you want to debate once again go to Google alt.native!
I readily admit I KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING about this case. I am in the learning stages. What I need is information I have had two previous commenters suggest books which I have purchased off of Amazon for less than five dollars each. (I would suggest that you DO NOT make light of my bank account. I live well below the poverty level and manage to pay my bills without the help of the government.) When I am done with those if I can find the book you suggest for a reasonable price I promise I will read it.
You stated that the FBI investigators agonized over this case. How do you arrive at this conclusion? Are you an investigator on this case? You posted this on my invitation to Monica Charles who has also agonized over the death of her friend and I have asked her to write a more personal account. She is working on it. What does this case mean to you? Personally? Did you know Anna Mae Aquash? It would be a very good start for a dialogue.
The facts will come eventually and ultimately there will be a judge that decides what will be admissible in a court of law. I do not envy the jury!
BTW do you know if FBI agents routinely take lie detector tests as I know military persons do?
HERE IS MY NOT SO POLITE RESPONSE
Funny how what you call “generalizations” do not bother you when concerned with AIM or Indians in general.
Funny how what you call “generalizations” do not bother you when concerned with liberals.
Maybe the truth is that you are one of those conservatives that think Indians and liberals do not matter because they are “unAmerican”.
The only person who feels that they do not need to educate themselves is YOU!
And what the hell is the deal with you. You start 2 websites AIM MYTHBUSTERS and AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA. And then post on them under the name of SNAPPLE….So the casual observer will think you have readers???? Of course that the authors of AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA retain YOU as their spokes person….we’ll I think we have a credibility issue right off the bat.
Anyone who reads this blog knows that I am an under educated wannabe artist over 40 who is going through early menopause and given to emotional outbursts!!!! Nothing to hide there!
But I have a feeling you have lots to hide. Such as your motives for your blogs. There are several options that I can only wonder at since you hide behind the keyboard.
The reason I have to spend more than a penny for the book is because it wasn’t even picked up by a real publishing house. Outskirts Press is a self-publishing press that only prints on demand. Order 1 copy you print 1 copy. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED THERE; COULDN’T THE BOOK PASS THE VETTING PROCESS OF A REAL PUBLISHING HOUSE?
IS THE BOOK LIKE YOUR BLOGS?????? ONE SIDED?
I may lack a proper education but I’m not a brainwashed chump like you.
The FBI agents agonized? WTF??? Monica Charles now that woman agonizes!
You claim AIM engages in propaganda? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE FLASH WITH GUNSHOTS ON THE AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA WEBSITE? You are a hypocrite of the worst sort!
You said I have yet to meet one person who has read Trimbach’s book and has not come away with the honest conclusion that there was much more to the story than they ever knew. As John McEnroe would say YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
As I suggest did you go to DEBATE this over at alt.native. Oh let me just take a look……
NOPE!
How do you spell c-o-w-a-r-d. Did your parents teach you to only fight debate people that you thought you could easily win? Wow that must be some family tradition to be proud of!!
But my Dad was 20 years in the military he raised me that only a coward would engage in battle with a weaker opponent…but then he didn’t raise me to be a fucking whining cowardice pussy. Where did you serve the Girl Scouts?
Of the two of us I can assure you that I represent the spirit of America and you should move to…..
France!
And you dare to write on my blog that you are skeptical of me??? Apparently your parents did not raise you with any manners either! (unless you were raised in the foster care system in which case I will immediately apologize.)
You know what else my Dad used to say Quit talking out of your ass. Do not try to hide the fact that YOU have already made up your mind about the case by accusing me of just that. It is obvious from my many posts that I cannot form an opinion on the case either way as it is very complicated. You on the other hand have taken the bait hook line and sinker. Did it bother you that we don’t even know what evidence the judge will or will not allow?? You are a very dishonest man.
The only real judgment on this case I have made is based on a quote by President James Hamilton: The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.
I notice you did not review the book or did you do that under a different name.
So here is the ‘Most Helpful” review by Frank Lee Speaks at AMAZON.
1. To say that American Indians are the Mafia is a figment of the imagination. The title of this book “American Indian Mafia” misrepresents all Indian people within the “American Indian Movement”. An online dictionary defines Mafia as: “a secret criminal organization operating mainly in the United States and Italy and engaged in illegal activities such as gambling, drug-dealing, protection, and prostitution.” The “American Indian Movement” is neither a “secret criminal organization” nor are they from “Italy”.
2. The language throughout the reading has a sour demeanor while imposing negative racial profiles to describe Native American Indians regardless of their affiliations. Under the heading “A Bum Steer”, Myrtle Poor Bear, who was a government FBI witness, is profiled in negative stereotypical terms. (Pages 441, 442, 599) A tone of racial arrogance and vengeance rings throughout this book.
3. There are no eyewitnesses, only hearsay and coerced testimony in this shallow, hollow account that does not prove Leonard Peltier shot or killed the FBI agents. While reading and searching for good solid evidence to support this claim, I did not find foolproof convincing evidence in this writing. Researching, I have found reliable information in the original court trial transcripts: US vs. LEONARD PELTIER, TRIAL TRANSCRIPT EXCERPTS – Case Number CR77-3003.
4. It is a contradiction to say that FBI Agent David Price and Anna Mae Aquash are “kindred spirits” as described on page 464 because they are opponents in their core beliefs. After all, it was David Price who ordered the mutilation of Anna Mae’s body by having her hands cut off. If she had lived to see any kind of body mutilation (cutting off hands, arms, legs or decapitations) practiced on any person, she would have spoken in opposition to David Price for ordering this heinous act that desecrates the body regardless of his reasoning.
5. Conclusion: This book should be rated zero because it reads like a “Propaganda 101″ novel. It lacks fairness, integrity and removes human dignity from those who suffered the most during this time, namely, the Native American Indian people. This is an example of 500 years of perpetual biased writing, ultimately living in the “Age of Propaganda”. This work is graded ” I ” as an Incomplete Record of actual events due to the withholding of pertinent documents/information related to this matter. Skeptical reading is highly recommended for this book.
6. Note: It is shameful that there are a few Indian people who mercenarily cater for maza-ska to the forces that not only murdered their ancestors, but mutilated them as well. Historical examples of murder and mutilations are: (1862) Little Crow and the 39 Dakota hanged at Mankato, Minnesota, (1890) Sitting Bull at Little Eagle, South Dakota. 1. To say that American Indians are the Mafia is a figment of the imagination. The title of this book “American Indian Mafia” misrepresents all Indian people within the “American Indian Movement”. An online dictionary defines Mafia as: “a secret criminal organization operating mainly in the United States and Italy and engaged in illegal activities such as gambling, drug-dealing, protection, and prostitution.” The “American Indian Movement” is neither a “secret criminal organization” nor are they from “Italy”.
2. The language throughout the reading has a sour demeanor while imposing negative racial profiles to describe Native American Indians regardless of their affiliations. Under the heading “A Bum Steer”, Myrtle Poor Bear, who was a government FBI witness, is profiled in negative stereotypical terms. (Pages 441, 442, 599) A tone of racial arrogance and vengeance rings throughout this book.
3. There are no eyewitnesses, only hearsay and coerced testimony in this shallow, hollow account that does not prove Leonard Peltier shot or killed the FBI agents. While reading and searching for good solid evidence to support this claim, I did not find foolproof convincing evidence in this writing. Researching, I have found reliable information in the original court trial transcripts: US vs. LEONARD PELTIER, TRIAL TRANSCRIPT EXCERPTS – Case Number CR77-3003.
4. It is a contradiction to say that FBI Agent David Price and Anna Mae Aquash are “kindred spirits” as described on page 464 because they are opponents in their core beliefs. After all, it was David Price who ordered the mutilation of Anna Mae’s body by having her hands cut off. If she had lived to see any kind of body mutilation (cutting off hands, arms, legs or decapitations) practiced on any person, she would have spoken in opposition to David Price for ordering this heinous act that desecrates the body regardless of his reasoning.
5. Conclusion: This book should be rated zero because it reads like a “Propaganda 101″ novel. It lacks fairness, integrity and removes human dignity from those who suffered the most during this time, namely, the Native American Indian people. This is an example of 500 years of perpetual biased writing, ultimately living in the “Age of Propaganda”. This work is graded ” I ” as an Incomplete Record of actual events due to the withholding of pertinent documents/information related to this matter. Skeptical reading is highly recommended for this book.
6. Note: It is shameful that there are a few Indian people who mercenarily cater for maza-ska to the forces that not only murdered their ancestors, but mutilated them as well. Historical examples of murder and mutilations are: (1862) Little Crow and the 39 Dakota hanged at Mankato, Minnesota, (1890) Sitting Bull at Little Eagle, South Dakota.
But now you done pissed me off and I promise I will post everyday about Anna Mae Aquash until the trial is over on days that I am home.
JAMES SIMON II
I am still waiting for you to answer my questions?
Of course yesterday was Sunday and I am sure you were observing the good Lords day of rest. I hope to hear from you when I get back from work.
I am going to start a whole category for James because I have a whole lot more to say whether he responds or not!
This man has 2 websites about one is AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA, and the other is AIM MYTHBUSTERS he also posts a lot under thenamd of SNAPPLE but he says very little about himself and doesn’t say WHY this case means so much to him.
FOR JAMES SIMON
Dear Mr.Simon,
I appreciate your comment on my blog as I am interested in hearing from all parties!
Unless I can find AMERICAN INDIAN MAFIA for a penny on Amazon it will be quite awhile before I have another book and music buying spree! My job has cut back on hours.
I must warn you that any government agency would be facing an uphill battle when it comes to credibility with me.
Isn’t the FBI part of the same government who thought it would be a good idea to sterilize Indian women??
Isn’t the FBI part of the same government who has systematically cheated Indians out of their royalties. (See my post on my Uncle Vic who worked for the GAO)
Is this the same FBI run by Herbert Hoover who was responsible for a rain of terror against “communists”?
Is this the same FBI who was using deceitful tactics to break up AIM?
I do not doubt that there were some bad characters in AIM. As I said previously I would not be surprised if someone involved with AIM killed Anna Mae Aquash.
The FBI used tactics that that would ensure paranoia and division among AIM leaders. The FBI was successful. They got what they wanted…members turning on one another.
Do I think that any of this absolves the FBI of guilt?
NO!
The problem with corruption and lying is that you lose trust. The FBI is no longer a credible organization as far as I am concerned. All one needs to do is look at history and ask themselves what has changed.
I have very high expectations of our government officials. I do not tolerate corrupt people or people who support corruption. I think that they are cowards.
So far my opinion of the men involved in Anna Mae Aquash’s life has not changed. They all failed her .
One more thing after all these years did new evidence suddenly come to light….Why is the FBI suddenly so concerned with the Anna Mae Aquash case?? Shouldn’t they have been protecting us from Wall Street executives???
Dare I say that if the FBI put half the resources and energy of the Anna Mae Aquash murder into investigating hedgefunds…we would not be in a depression.
When the Government has confiscated the money stolen by corrupt CEO’S…
When the Government has prosecuted every corrupt CEO…
When the Government has jailed every corrupt CEO the way they would any other criminal. And not in club Fed…
Then and only then will I begin to trust them again.
Only then will I believe that they are working to protect the very Americans whose tax dollars are funding their organization.
As they say I was born on a Thursday but it wasn’t last Thursday!
What say ye?
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